tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8537045684820674531.post4040981603145039718..comments2023-12-22T15:54:02.289-08:00Comments on Consider The Source: Kaliningrad - Ground Zero for Armageddon?mikeyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13057701313718589322noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8537045684820674531.post-55108823369742319382015-07-11T08:42:35.325-07:002015-07-11T08:42:35.325-07:00I think it's actually the other way around. Su...I think it's actually the other way around. Sure, he'd prefer to avoid a war - particularly because he's militarily weaker - but HE'S the one that's going to keep pushing, keep probing, to prove that NATO won't respond. The risk is that eventually SOMEBODY will do something stupid - shoot down some airplanes, fire on some armor that is close to the border, etc - and then what happens?<br /><br />It's all about incremental escalation, and that's what we're seeing so far...mikeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13057701313718589322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8537045684820674531.post-55110159778474573042015-07-10T20:05:41.390-07:002015-07-10T20:05:41.390-07:00I don't think Putin is quite reckless enough t...I don't think Putin is quite reckless enough to start a shooting war with NATO. He's a kleptocrat, to be sure, but I think that makes him less likely to risk his comfortable ass.<br /><br />Of course, I really, really hope that nobody provokes him sufficiently so that he does something stupid.Big Bad Bald Bastardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01983025559556548658noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8537045684820674531.post-85182662267767291752015-07-10T19:00:05.931-07:002015-07-10T19:00:05.931-07:00Ok. More considered thoughts.
There was no coup. ...Ok. More considered thoughts.<br /><br />There was no coup. The people of Western Ukraine, particularly Kiyv, wanted to be part of Europe. The Ukraine leadership was clearly a Russian puppet. Now, did the west move too aggressively to expand NATO to the Russian border? Without a doubt. But to try to find some basis for blaming the US for events in Ukraine kind of demonstrates an irrational desire to blame EVERYTHING that ever happened anywhere on the US. This is not an uncommon option, but it's not historically or empirically supportable. The Russian army DID occupy and annex Crimea. The Russian army IS fighting in a ground war in Eastern Ukraine. The existence of neo-nazis in the Ukraine is documented, but not to anything close to the levels people like to pretend. <br /><br />Putin is the problem at this point - if you want the US to be the problem you have to decide that despite our utter incompetence throughout the rest of the globe, we're brilliantly maneuvering in Eastern Ukraine. <br /><br />Dood, you just don't get to have it both ways. Either we're blundering clowns (yes) or we're Machiavellian geniuses (show me where that was ever the case)....<br /><br />mikeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13057701313718589322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8537045684820674531.post-42826381720721602722015-07-10T18:49:59.955-07:002015-07-10T18:49:59.955-07:00Let's try to keep out of Alex Jones territory ...Let's try to keep out of Alex Jones territory as much as possible, Thunder. We actually know a great deal about what's going on on the Russian frontier, and that's really not it...mikeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13057701313718589322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8537045684820674531.post-11586149701530158842015-07-10T18:32:16.244-07:002015-07-10T18:32:16.244-07:00Russia has invaded and annexed Crimea, and is figh...<i>Russia has invaded and annexed Crimea, and is fighting a ground war in Eastern Ukraine. </i><br /><br />OR: America staged a coup in the Ukraine, and is supporting neo-Nazis in yet another neocon attempt to start World War III.<br /><br /><a href="https://consortiumnews.com/2015/07/07/ukraine-merges-nazis-and-islamists/" rel="nofollow">Consider the source</a>.<br />~ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®©https://www.blogger.com/profile/06252371815131259831noreply@blogger.com